Slimmer Summer Cycle – HDROL & 11-OXO

Posted by admin on March 29, 2011
Designer Steroids

Introduction

Summer is just around the corner, with summer fast approaching the time to cycle is limited, so we bring to you our slimmer summer Cycle featuring two well known pro-hormones/designer steroids, Halodrol and 11-OXO.  Both are excellent candidates for a cutting cycle in their own right, but together the results are kicked into high gear.

H-Drol (Halodrol)

Halodrol (H-Drol) is a methylated designer steroid created by Gaspari Nutrition, the chemical makeup is (4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Androst-1,4-Diene-3-17b-Diol), h-drol is methylated therefore it puts stress on our livers, h-drol shouldn’t be stacked with another methylated compound and should be ran with appropriate liver support. H-drol is quite potent and works well while cutting, recomping or bulking and is mild enough to be stacked with other non-methylated compounds (such as 11-OXO).

11-OXO (Andrenosterone)

11-OXO (Andrenosterone) is a non methylated designer steroid created by Ergopharm and has been widely cloned (11-test, 11-sterone etc).  11-OXO not only will assist with weight loss but it also positively impacts cortisol which has brings additional weight loss benefits, these effects in my cycle were quite noticeable within the first two weeks.  This is a mild compound that stacks nicely with just about any compound on the market.

Orastan-A/Furazadrol

Since 11-OXO can be hard to find and expensive, Orastan-A/Furazadrol (and clones) can be used as a direct replacement for 11-OXO.  The only tangible difference would be the dosage, if you’re opting to use an Orastan-A clone follow this dosing.

Dosing:  150mg to 250mg per day.

Bodily Protection

Like many compounds on the market 11-OXO and h-drol can have a negative impact on blood pressure, lipid values, cholesterol levels and will stress our bodies endocrine system, in the case of h-drol as noted it will also put additional strain on our livers. Anytime you’re stacking two designer anabolic steroids or pro-hormones the potential for side effects is elevated, however with proper supplementation and planning we can help our bodies mitigate most of the risk and or reduce the severity of side effects. Luckily for the past couple of years companies have been offering all-in-one cycle protection that are designed specifically to help prevent side effects and or in the event of side effects (such as elevated blood pressure) reduce their impact. Therefore ANYONE running a stack like this is required to supplement with one of the following products throughout the entire duration of the cycle.

  1. Anabolic Innovations – Cycle Support (Powder)
  2. Anabolic Innovations – Life Support (Capsules)
  3. Competitive Edge Labs – Cycle Assist (Capsules)

Either of the three are suitable choices, cost should be the deciding factor or whether you prefer capsules or powder. For this stacked cycle begin pre-loading either life support or cycle support one week before starting the cycle, make sure you run one of these products through the entire duration of your cycle including PCT so make sure you buy enough. These products will assist your body with maintaining healthy blood pressure, prostate health, liver function and lipid profile by utilizing popular herbs such as Hawthorn Berry (BP), NAC (liver), Milk Thistle (liver), Saw Palmetto (prostate) among others. Please follow the manufactures recommended dosage (as per bottle) as it’s the dosage known to work best.

Dosing & Length

We won’t get into all the dosing possibilities, because they’re so many options, but for this theoretical stack below is the dosing and length we will be using.  We keep the dosage low on 11-OXO mostly to gain it’s cortisol benefits, feel free to bring the dosage up higher if you feel comfortable.

CompoundWeek 1Week 2Week 3Week 4Week 5Week 6Week 7Week 8
11-OXO300mg300mg300mg300mg300MG300mg300mg300mg
H-Drolnonenonenone50mg75mg75-100mg75-100mg75-100mg

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)

As noted this article assumes you have past anabolic steroid or pro-hormone experience therefore we won’t get into WHY you need to PCT, please read our informative bibles on h-drol and 11-OXO for that information. For this stack you will most definitely need a prescription grade PCT utilizing a SERM and Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) fits that bill and is also the most popular SERM among steroid and pro-hormone users below is how this stacks PCT is being laid out.

  1. Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate). Comes in Liquid or Pill form.
  2. Optional (But highly-recommended): Competitive Edge Labs – P.C.T Assist

Below is the example PCT when using a research drug (such as Nolvadex aka Tamoxifen Citrate, as we are in this case).

Week1-2 Nolvadex 20mg & P.C.T Assist (5 caps) | Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10mg & P.C.T Assist (5 caps) | Week 5 P.C.T Assist (4 caps)

Putting it together

Here is how the cycle would look on paper from start to finish, including everything.

ProductWk1Wk2Wk3Wk4Wk 5Wk6Wk7Wk8Wk9Wk10Wk11Wk12Wk13
Life/Cycle SupportYesYesYesYesYesYesYesYesYesYesYesYesYes
11-OXOno300mg300mg300mg300mg300mg300mg300mg300mgnononono
H-Drolnononono50mg75mg75mg75mg75mgnononono
Nolvadexnonononononononono20mg20mg10mg10mg

Closing Arguments

This cycle should yield excellent cutting results, remember in the end it all comes down to diet and training.

Supplements

It’s recommended that users supplement with a quality Multi-Vitamin and Fish Oil throughout the ENTIRE cycle, keep something on hand for your joints in the event you experience some discomfort Universal Animal Flex works wonders. You should stop taking any other supplements on Cycle as well such as Creatine, NO, Test Boosters and so on, these should be saved for PCT in order to preserve strength. It’s heavily recommended that during PCT, you add Creatine and a Cell Volumizer type of product. Supplementing with Protein is highly recommended on cycle

Interactions

Users who are on anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication may experienced increased anxiety/depression while on cycle and during PCT. It is HEAVILY advised not to drink alcoholic drinks while on Cycle & PCT, doing so will put significant strain on the liver and can result in a major health hazard. Users should avoid using stimulants on cycle as blood pressure may elevate too high and possibly cause fainting. In general, avoid starting any new medications while on cycle or just before, if you’re concerned about a possible interaction consult your doctor. Users should also eat a clean diet on cycle.

Disclaimer

We are not doctors, therefore before starting any supplement or training regiment you should consult with your doctor. The information being provided is simply personal opinion.

35 Comments to Slimmer Summer Cycle – HDROL & 11-OXO

yessir
April 7, 2011

How would you feel about a P-Mag/ P-Stanz stack instead? Looking to get a little more bulk out of this stack while maintaining or slightly decreasing body fat for summer.

Shaun
April 11, 2011

Could you also use this stack to ‘bulk up’?
If a trainer greatly increased his calorie intake, the 11 OXO would ensure he didn’t gain fat while the H-Drol would ensure he packed on some decent muscle mass?
Looking forward to your reply – I’ve read your HDrol-Bold stack guide but I can no longer find Bold anywhere.

admin
April 12, 2011

yessir – I have no problems with your suggested stack, should be pretty solid. I personally loved P-Mag, adding P-Stanz would help things stay lean.

Shaun – You could use this stack to bulk up, you would more than likely get some nice recomping effects. If you’re after bulking, I would more than likely replace h-drol with P-Mag.

pdiddy
April 13, 2011

So confused, reading for hours on 11 oxo and whether to bridge it or run it with Hdrol combined. Many say that while on cycle cortisol is held in check (greatly) so what is the point of adding the 11 oxo in??

PA does not come out and comment on this anywhere I have seen, but him recommending a bridge of it at the end of a cycle for 2-4 weeks has me wondering. I got 3 bottles of each on the way, and keep going back and forth on what to do now that I am reading all this conflicting information. Probably end up taking both together and pray I am not wasting the 11 oxo.

Maybe someone can clear up the benefits outside of cortisol control of 11 oxo, or what the difference would be to run it at higher doses added on to the end of the hdrol for 6 weeks.

I originally planned on using the Hdrol at 75/75/75/75/75/75 and the 11 oxo at 300 a day stacked. My other option would be Hdrol same and THEN start the 11 oxo for a 12 week total.

Point me in the right direction.

Duke
April 15, 2011

How many bottles of 11oxo are needed? I have 2 bottles of hdrol already on hand + pct, nolva and liver support.

JR
April 19, 2011

I do not recomend running a cycle of a mythalated ph such as hdrol followed by an additional 6 weeks on 11oxo…

your going to be shut down from hdrol and it is important to rebound your nat test and liver levels asap..not 6 weeks aft use.

11oxo should be bridged the last two weeks of hdrol. It should be dosed high as possible although expensive unless using bulk powder.

admin
April 20, 2011

JR is correct.

In general you always want to end your cycle with the more powerful compound of the two when stacking, since you will more than likely experience peak shut down during this phase.

Acceptable would be stacking it like the article suggests, alternatively you can bridge it if desired (11-OXO -> H-Drol) with some minor overlap.

If you go H-DROL -> 11-OXO, you’re going to experience peak shut down(if any) during the h-drol, stopping h-drol and bridging to 11-OXO may cause issue with recovery/shut down.

SolidForce
April 24, 2011

Could you add and extra 50 Hdrol week in there at the beginning? Maybe up the oxo to around 400mg as well? What would be the downsides? Also, how would the clomid compare to nolva for the PCT on this stack?

Thanks!

admin
April 25, 2011

Certainly if you want to run an additional week of hdrol it’s possible depending on your experience, 11-OXO can be bumped up as well. This article was mostly based on my cycle which consisted of 6 weeks of h-drol @ 100mg and 9 weeks of 11-OXO @ 500mg. I ramped the dosages up (did not start at 100mg / 500mg)

T-tan
April 30, 2011

Would running 11-OXO alone be pointless?

JD
April 30, 2011

What is your opinion on replacing hdrol with epi? Im interesting in running this but I had a really bad reaction to hdrol, was thinking of epi+11oxo for a cut that would help me retain strength and mass while cutting (or even increase a little)

SlayerOH
April 30, 2011

I wish to buy some Hdrol but I’m sure there are alot of phonies out there and I don’t want to waste my money. Is Halodrol 50 the the original good stuff from gaspar? Is H Drol by competitive edge labs the same thing? I could use a hand with this.

Nathan
May 2, 2011

I am running a trenazone/pmag stack right now, and will be running Lean xtreme during pct. This article/comments got me thinking:

Would it be beneficial to run lean xtreme throughout the cycle as well in order to encourage bell fat loss (combined with the right nutrition and cardio, of course)?

Drama
May 2, 2011

I’ve been recommended to take 11-oxo with E/C stack and save H-drol for a bulking workout.

I’m looking to cut down from 13% BF to 7-8% BF.

Also, do you know much about 11kt? Thanks for the great articles too — extremely informative!

Cheers,

Drama

Nathan
May 2, 2011

I am running a trenazone/pmag stack right now, and will be running Lean xtreme during pct. This article/comments got me thinking:

Would it be beneficial to run lean xtreme throughout the cycle as well in order to encourage bell fat loss (combined with the right nutrition and cardio, of course)?

admin
May 2, 2011

I would probably save the lean xtreme until post cycle, I often use cortisol control post cycle, since your hormones will be out of wack.

admin
May 2, 2011

I would stick with H-Drol by competitive edge labs.

admin
May 2, 2011

This would be another solid cycle, EPI + 11-OXO would work very nicely.

admin
May 2, 2011

It depends on what your intentions are, if you’re hoping to gain, running 11-OXO solo would be fairly pointless. Weight loss/cutting would certainly help.

John
May 4, 2011

2 Questions:

1. Which is better option ‘Protodrol’ or ‘H-DROL’?
2. Would ‘Activate Extreme’, ‘Triazole’ and ‘Lean Extreme’ a good OTC PCT?

Congratulations on this site!

Drew
May 5, 2011

What are your thoughts on the new ph called Splice by Genetyx? It’s a prostanazol and DMZ blend? I’ve been told it’s good for some size, strength, and cutting all in one bottle.

admin
May 5, 2011

Not too familiar of it quite yet so can’t comment, typically, I’ll only use compounds by several manufacturers… This isn’t one of them.

admin
May 5, 2011

1) H-Drol has a better longer track record, would go with halodrol in this case.
2) Won’t really comment on an OTC PCT, I would hit PHF to get feedback on it, would go with a SERM.

Buddy
May 7, 2011

So what can we use instead of nolvadex since you need a prescription to get it?? Do over the counter pct’s actually work well enough? Don’t want man boobs…

admin
May 11, 2011

You can find Nolvadex online without prescription, just do some google searches, you’ll be surprised…

mike
June 6, 2011

might just be me.. but i cant find any of these anywhere. always out of stock or discontinued. did these all get pulled?

Tampa-man
July 8, 2011

I don’t want to sound like idiot, but just to be sure. Are they(11-OXO and H-Drol)used as an injection or caps???please I really need an answer!!!

Thank you for your wonderful articles.

dave
July 19, 2011

11-oxo and h-drol are caps and there is 11-oxo spray. H-drol by cel is discontinued so if you don’t have it u need to get another halodrol clone.

casey
July 22, 2011

great cycle, I may have to try this for my next cycle

Jerry
July 23, 2011

Would CEL StanOdrol be a viable replacement for 11oxo.
I already have 2 bottles of the stuff and dont know what to do with it.

Chuoty
July 31, 2011

What about running Sdrol+110×0? I was thinking of running 6 week at 300mg 110×0 with last three week of sdrol 10mg?

PCT wise, would it be sufficient to run Nolvdex at 20mg 20mg 20mg with testforce2? Or would i need additional PCT?

ethan
August 20, 2011

im really lovin these stack bibles. there really helpful and im lookin forward to reading more of them

Carmen
August 22, 2011

I have decided to stack 11-sterone and hdrol together. I am using the 300/75 mix. Started 11-sterone two weeks ago then started hdrol. I preloaded with cycle assist two weeks before everything.

My question? : Is it o.k. to take hdrol and 11-sterone at the same time? Its so hard when you got so many things to take ( hdrol,11-sterone,cycle assist, fish oil etc..) When to take can be difficult timing.

Please any info would help.
Thanks, Carmen

Ed
August 27, 2011

Gonna run:
11-sterone – 300/375/450/450/450/450
H-drol. – 0/0/50/50/50/50
Cel cycle assist – as stated on packet

OTC PCT:
Gaspari Novadex for 4 weeks
Cel pct assist for 4 weeks
Do you think I need to throw a test booster in aswell like tribulus

Ed
August 27, 2011

Cel cycle assist as part of OTC PCT too.

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