Prelude & Overview
LMG (often referred to as Max LMG or M-LMG) is a progestin based designer seteroid/pro-hormone, LMG has been cloned considerably over the years, however the correct nomenclature for an LMG based compound is (13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one ). Max LMG is a ‘wet’ non-methylated compound and considered to be relatively mild, while LMG is a wet compound it doesn’t aromatize therefore fluid retention can be limited. Max-LMG should be reserved for bulking due to water retention and possible bloating, it’s seldom used solo and is often part of a bulking stack in conjunction with a more potent methylated compound.
Note: There has been independent research challenging the notation that LMG doesn’t aromatize, research has shown that it does impact estrogen.
Below is a list of some confirmed Max LMG clones, however availability of these compounds may vary.
- Alri – Max LMG
- Anabolic Xtreme - Ergomax LMG
- Competitive Edge Labs – M-LMG
- Genetic Edge Technologies – SuS 500
- XS Labs – Tren 13-ethyl
- Black China Labs – Super Tren-MG
- Double Dragon – MX75
- NRG-X Labs – Tren 13-Ethyl
Max LMG is an oral based pro-hormone that’s processed by the liver, LMG is NOT a methylated compound and thus is considered relatively liver safe. Despite being a relatively mild compound LMG falls into the moderate category in terms of side effects, mostly as it’s a progestin therefore prolactin sides can be a concern, avoid stacking with other progestins. ALL steroids and pro-hormones can negatively impact blood pressure, lipid values, estrogen, cholesterol levels and will put stress on the bodies endocrine system, there is also additional side effects (discussed shortly) that can also present themselves, however in most cases they’re typically minor and a slight inconvenience.
With proper planning and preventative supplementation we can assist our bodies with protecting our livers, lipid values, cholesterol levels and help control adverse blood pressure effects, this may seem like a daunting task finding supplements to tackle all of these concerns, however luckily several supplement companies have been making “all-in-one” cycle protection products that work to address many of these potential side effects and subsequently an “all-in-one” product will be the basis for our on cycle support. Therefore ANYONE running LMG, is required to supplement with one of the following products throughout the entire duration of the cycle.
- Anabolic Innovations – Cycle Support (Powder)
- Anabolic Innovations – Life Support (Capsules)
- Competitive Edge Labs – Cycle Assist (Capsules)
Either of the three are suitable choices, cost should be the deciding factor or whether you prefer capsules or powder. A general rule of thumb is to pre-load either of the products two weeks prior to beginning your cycle and continue to use throughout the entire cycle from start to finish, buy accordingly so you have enough on hand. These products will assist your body with maintaining healthy blood pressure, prostate health, liver function and lipid profile by utilizing popular herbs such as Hawthorn Berry (BP), NAC (liver), Milk Thistle (liver), Saw Palmetto (prostate) among others. Please follow the manufactures recommended dosage (as per bottle) as it’s the dosage known to work best.
One of the potential downside’s of LMG is the potential of progestin sides including induced gyno or flare ups of existing gyno cases, while rare, we need to take this into consideration. Therefore it’s recommend all users run P-5-P on cycle, follow the recommended dosage on the bottle, if you experience any flare ups, bump the dosage into the 150-250mg range.
For more information on combating other sides please read our article combating cycle sides.
There are a lot of possible length / dosage combinations with LMG, with the most common dosage being 100MG daily, cycles are anywhere from 4 to 7 weeks in length with 6 weeks being the most common. Advanced users can experiment with dosages in upwards of 150MG, however, if stacking with another compound adjust the dosage accordingly. Like most other steroids/pro-hormone for the effects to be in full gear it may take several weeks and that is the case with LMG as well, expect results by the third week. Dosages should be split by 6-8 hours as the half life for this compound is between 6 and 8 hours.
Below is the recommend cycle layout for good results with manageable risk of side effects.
Cycle Layout (6 Weeks):
Week 1: 75mg / per day
Week 2-6: 100mg / per day
On lifting days it’s recommended to take a dosage roughly one hour before starting your gym session, in some cases taking a dosage before bed may have a negative impact on sleep, so take this into consideration. In addition, it’s generally a good idea to take each dosage with EFA’s (i.e fish oil) in order to enhance absorption, it’s also recommended to consume 16+ ounces of water at each dosage
Common Side Effects
The occurrence rate of side effects while using LMG would be considered moderate, middle of the road in terms of sides, however they’re completely user unique, some users may not experience any side effects, while other users will experience a combination of sides. It should be noted that the majority of these side effects are simply of inconvenience more so than a possible health affecting issue and for the most part can be resolved through simple supplementation, take sometime to read our article on combating side effects. Keep in mind these potential side effects are in addition to those mentioned above under “Maintaining Health”…
- Bloating / Water Retention.
- Hair shedding
- Aggravation of existing Gyno.
- Puffy / Sensitive Nipples
- Joint Discomfort
- Back Pumps (Dull pain in back after/during workouts)
- Decreased Libido/Improved Libido (common)
- Increased aggression, head aches, flushing and various other sides can happen as well.
LMG is a bulking compound through and through, expect very wet gains with weight loss post cycle due to bloating. Most feedback suggests excellent size and strength gains, however LMG truly shines when stacked with a methylated slightly more potent designer steroid/pro-hormone. Gains are user dependent some users may experience more size gains while others more strength gains and some an equal distribution of both. Gains in the 7-8lbs range, however some gains may simply be bloat which will be lost post cycle.
Post Cycle Therapy
Possibly the most important item on the menu is post cycle therapy, when taking a foreign substance (LMG) that creates testosterone your body begins to shut down it’s normal production, when you stop taking a pro-hormone or steroid compound your body needs a way to jump start it’s own natural production again, while limiting endocrine system stress, this is why we need post cycle therapy. It’s not just as simple as that however, when coming off of a compound your body goes through a very stressful phase as your hormones are out of balance, failure to mitigate these imbalances can result in a unique set of side effects not related to the LMG compound. Below is just a *few* of the noted side effects of an improper post cycle therapy regiment, it should also be noted that the occurrence of side effects in the post cycle stage is more common than the “on-cycle” phase, however a properly planned post cycle therapy regiment can mitigate these risks.
- Gynecomastia (or Man Boobs)
- Anxiety/Depression (Can range mild to severe)
- Body Aches/Pains (Can range mild to severe)
- Impotence and other sexual function side effects.
- Loss of gains made on cycle.
As you can see, these are side affects we definitely want to avoid at all costs, so let’s start discussing a proper LMG (Post Cycle Therapy).
Post Cycle General: You should begin your PCT regiment immediately after your pro-hormone or designer steroid cycle, it should begin the day after your last dosage of LMG PCT regiments are typically 4-6 weeks depending on the type of compound being used, user and type of PCT. As noted in the previous section under “Maintaining Health”, you should continue to use Life Support, Cycle Assist or Cycle Support throughout your entire cycle, INCLUDING your PCT regiment.
- Boost Natural Testosterone Production.
- Regulate Estrogen.
- Restore HPTA function.
- Reducing SHBG.
- Control Cortisol Effects.
Over The Counter: An OTC (Over The Counter) is possible with LMG (especially if being used standalone), however we advocate using a SERM for all compounds.
Research Drugs: The MOST effective PCT regiment is one that includes a prescription/research drug, however some users prefer not to go this route, you may be asking why would someone go another route if this is the most proven and effective PCT method. There’s various reasons but one to point out is that these drugs aren’t technically available without a prescription, these are also very powerful drugs that can also have their own side effects, notice that I say they aren’t “technically” available that’s because they can be purchased online at research drug sites, I won’t provide you with any links, if you chose to go this route googling for these sites will won’t take you long.
1. Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate). Comes in Liquid or Pill form.
Below is an example PCT when using a research drug (such as Nolvadex aka Tamoxifen Citrate, as we are in this case). (If stacking run at least 20/20/10/10)
Week 1 Nolvadex 20mg | Week 1-3 Nolvadex 10mg
This is an example cycle from start to finish to give you an idea how it should look, assumes you’re using Nolvadex. From start to finish our properly designed cycle will take approximately 12 weeks total. Assuming your cycle is 6 weeks in length.
- Week 1-2: Pre-load Cycle Support, Cycle Assist or Life Support @ Bottle Recommended dosages.
- Week 3: Cycle/Life Support | LMG 75mg
- Week 4-8: Cycle/Life Support | LMG 100mg
- Week 9: Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 20mg
- Week 10-12: Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 10mg
LMG can easily be stacked with other compounds quite successfully,because it’s non-methylated the choices are virtually endless, the most popular addition to a LMG cycle is typically P-Mag/Superdrol. It’s viable to stack this compound with a steroid that’s a better mass gainer while experiencing the recomping effects from LMG.
- Methylated Compounds (Halodrol, H-Drol, P-mag, Superdrol, M-Drol, Epistane, Havoc, etc)
- Non-Methylated Compounds (BOLD, 11-OXO, 3-AD, Furazadrol, etc)
It’s recommended that users supplement with a quality Multi-Vitamin and Fish Oil throughout the ENTIRE cycle. You should stop taking any other supplements on Cycle as well such as Creatine, NO, Test Boosters and so on, these should be saved for PCT in order to preserve strength. It’s heavily recommended that during PCT, you add Creatine and a Cell Volumizer type of product. Supplementing with Protein is highly recommended on cycle.
Users who are on anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication may experienced increased anxiety/depression while on cycle and during PCT. It is HEAVILY advised not to drink alcoholic drinks while on Cycle & PCT, doing so will put significant strain on the liver and can result in a major health hazard. Users should avoid using stimulants on cycle as blood pressure may elevate too high and possibly cause fainting. In general, avoid starting any new medications while on cycle or just before, if you’re concerned about a possible interaction consult your doctor. Users should also eat a clean diet on cycle.
Those being tested for elevated testosterone levels and or lowered estrogen levels will produce a positive test result while on LMG, it’s also important to note that if using a research/prescription drug for your PCT regiment, this will also cause a positive test result in many cases. In the meantime the easiest method for passing a drug test is to purchase synthetic urine online, they come in easy to use kits at many websites and are relatively affordable.
We are not doctors, therefore before starting any supplement or training regiment you should consult with your doctor. The information being provided is simply personal opinion. Anyone under the age of 21 should not consider using any pro-hormone or designer steroid as it can have a negative impact on your life, for life.