Prelude
M1,4ADD is a an effective, yet relatively under hyped designer steroid/pro-hormone that is available on the over the counter market, M1,4ADD was primarily brought to market by Designer Supplements in/and around 2005, however was discontinued in 2006. Several years later Competitive Edge Labs introduced their clone ‘M1,4ADD’… in addition several companies such as reputable Purus Labs (m14-e) released products that contain amounts of ‘M1,4ADD’ along with other compounds (commonly stacked with epistane/havoc).
Currently the availability of M1,4ADD is limited as it’s apparently been discontinued once again or reliable raw sources are unavailable, however there are several online vendors that have Competitive Edge Labs M1,4ADD in stock, a quick Google search will point you in the right direction.
Overview: M1,4ADD
M1,4ADD (Methyl-1,4 androstenediol) is one of the few ‘wet’ compounds available on the over the counter market, cycles are typically average in length with 4-5 weeks being most common and 6 weeks being more on the extreme side. M1,4ADD does have some conversion to Dianabol (methandrostenolone) with most figures putting the conversion at around 15%, even without factoring in the conversion M1,4ADD has some anabolic activity of it’s own. It’s said that despite conversion to Dianabol, the on cycle feeling and results more closely resemble Boldione (Bold/1,4AD).
M1,4ADD is a wet (aromatizes) compound therefore some estrogen related side effects are to be expected such as water retention/bloat and possible irritation or resurfacing of existing gyno cases, therefore it can be commonly ran with an AI to suppress on cycle estrogen.
M1,4ADD isn’t recommended for first time pro-hormone and steroid users, it’s recommended that users have at least 1 successful (preferably with a methylated compound) cycle under their belt before considering M1,4ADD.
Maintaining Health
M1,4ADD is an oral based pro-hormone that’s processed by the liver, M1,4ADD is also a methylated compound and thus puts additional strain on our bodies liver. This is one of the compounds that falls somewhere in between mild and harsh in regards to side effects, it can negatively impact blood pressure, lipid values, estrogen, cholesterol levels and will put stress on the bodies endocrine system, there is also additional side effects (discussed shortly) that can also present themselves, however in most cases they’re typically minor and a slight inconvenience.
However with proper planning and preventative supplementation we can assist our bodies with protecting our livers, lipid values, cholesterol levels and help control adverse blood pressure effects, this may seem like a daunting task finding supplements to tackle all of these concerns, however luckily several supplement companies have been making “all-in-one” cycle protection products that work to address many of these potential side effects and subsequently an “all-in-one” product will be the basis for our on cycle support. Therefore ANYONE running M1,4ADD , is required to supplement with one of the following products throughout the entire duration of the cycle.
- Anabolic Innovations – Cycle Support (Powder)
- Anabolic Innovations – Life Support (Capsules)
- Competitive Edge Labs – Cycle Assist (Capsules)
Either of the three are suitable choices, cost should be the deciding factor or whether you prefer capsules or powder. A general rule of thumb is to pre-load either of the products two weeks prior to beginning your cycle and continue to use throughout the entire cycle from start to finish, buy accordingly so you have enough on hand. These products will assist your body with maintaining healthy blood pressure, prostate health, liver function and lipid profile by utilizing popular herbs such as Hawthorn Berry (BP), NAC (liver), Milk Thistle (liver), Saw Palmetto (prostate) among others. Please follow the manufactures recommended dosage (as per bottle) as it’s the dosage known to work best.
Where as with many cycles, one of the products above would be sufficient on it’s own for cycle protection, however due to possible estrogen related side effects with M1,4ADD it’s recommended to take the “better safe than sorry” approach by controlling estrogen throughout the duration of the cycle to prevent the slim possibility of gyno irritation or other estrogenic side effects.
- Competitive Edge Labs Formestane – Is a topical suicide estrogen inhibitor that will help keep estrogen levels at bay throughout the duration of the cycle. Use half of the recommended dosage (2 squirts, twice daily separated by 8-12 hours) bump to 4 squirts twice daily if estrogen related sides aren’t controllable at half the dosage.
We also recommend having Taurine on hand with M1,4ADD to control back pumps (if any occur), however due to it’s wetness it can be a bit easier on the cramps, for more information on combating other sides please read our article combating cycle sides.
In the event of any serious gyno related side effects, jump to PCT or preferably have Letro on hand to curtail.
Dosing
M1,4ADD cycles are typically average in length with four-to-five weeks being most common and six weeks being more on the advanced/extreme side, it’s generally recommended to keep cycles at a maximum of five weeks. The bottle recommends a maximum dosage of 90mg daily, however through much experimentation, this is simply a good starting point. The sweet spot of M1,4ADD is generally 120mg daily and with 150mg being a dosage reserved for a select few hardcore users willing to take the risk.
Therefore below is the recommend cycle layout for good results with manageable risk of side effects.
Cycle Layout (4 Weeks):
Week 1: 90mg / per day | Week 2-4: 120mg / per day
Cycle Layout (5 Weeks):
Week 1-2: 90mg / per day | Week 3-5: 120mg / per day
M1,4ADD works relatively quickly, you should begin to experience some effects of the compound well within the first two weeks, one of the downsides to M1,4ADD is it’s relatively short half life which has been suggested to be in the 4-5 hour range therefore the dosage should be equally split up (by 4-5 hours) to provide yourself with maximum coverage throughout the day. On lifting days it’s recommended to take a dosage roughly one hour before starting your gym session, in some cases taking a dosage before bed may have a negative impact on sleep, so take this into consideration. In addition, it’s generally a good idea to take each dosage with EFA’s (i.e fish oil) in order to enhance absorption, it’s also recommended to consume 16+ ounces of water at each M1,4ADD dosage
Common Side Effects
The occurrence rate of side effects while using M1,4ADD would be considered moderate, middle of the road in terms of sides, however they’re completely user unique, some users may not experience any side effects, while other users will experience a combination of sides. It should be noted that the majority of these side effects are simply of inconvenience more so than a possible health affecting issue and for the most part can be resolved through simple supplementation, take sometime to read our article on combating side effects. Keep in mind these potential side effects are in addition to those mentioned above under “Maintaining Health”…
- Bloating / Water Retention.
- Aggravation of existing Gyno.
- Increased hair growth / Increased hair shedding
- Puffy / Sensitive Nipples
- Joint Discomfort
- Back Pumps (Dull pain in back after/during workouts)
- Feeling of euphoria noted on M1,4ADD
- Increased or Decreased Libido (More commonly increased with M1,4ADD)
- Increased aggression, head aches, flushing and various other sides can happen as well.
Typical Results
M1,4ADD is a popular bulker due to it’s wet nature, gains in size and strength come relatively strong and consistent once it kick’s in and continued throughout the duration of the cycle. Expect to lose weight gains post cycle due to fluid retention, in addition due to the fluid retention it’s not recommend using this compound for cutting as a clean bulk will yield the best possible results.
Gains with M1,4ADD typically come in the form of size and strength, however it can be unique, some users may experience more size gains while others more strength gains and some an equal distribution of both. Gains in upwards of 20lbs have been reported (pre-PCT) however net gains should typically be in the 8-12 lb range for experienced users who religiously follow a strict diet and workout regiment.
Post Cycle Therapy
Possibly the most important item on the menu is post cycle therapy, when taking a foreign substance (M1,4ADD) that creates testosterone your body begins to shut down it’s normal production, when you stop taking a pro-hormone or steroid compound your body needs a way to jump start it’s own natural production again, while limiting endocrine system stress, this is why we need post cycle therapy. It’s not just as simple as that however, when coming off of a compound your body goes through a very stressful phase as your hormones are out of balance, failure to mitigate these imbalances can result in a unique set of side effects not related to the M1,4ADD compound. Below is just a *few* of the noted side effects of an improper post cycle therapy regiment, it should also be noted that the occurrence of side effects in the post cycle stage is more common than the “on-cycle” phase, however a properly planned post cycle therapy regiment can mitigate these risks.
- Gynecomastia (or Man Boobs)
- Anxiety/Depression (Can range mild to severe)
- Body Aches/Pains (Can range mild to severe)
- Impotence and other sexual function side effects.
- Loss of gains made on cycle.
As you can see, these are side affects we definitely want to avoid at all costs, so let’s start discussing a proper M1,4ADD PCT (Post Cycle Therapy).
Post Cycle General: You should begin your PCT regiment immediately after your pro-hormone or designer steroid cycle, it should begin the day after your last dosage of M1,4ADD PCT regiments are typically 4-6 weeks depending on the type of compound being used, user and type of PCT. As noted in the previous section under “Maintaining Health”, you should continue to use Life Support, Cycle Assist or Cycle Support throughout your entire cycle, INCLUDING your PCT regiment.
- Boost Natural Testosterone Production.
- Regulate Estrogen.
- Restore HPTA function.
- Reducing SHBG.
- Control Cortisol Effects.
Over The Counter: An OTC (Over The Counter) post cycle therapy regiment is not an acceptable PCT for M1,4ADD, especially due to the estrogenic aspect of this compound, for M1,4ADD cycles a Research Drug is REQUIRED.
Research Drugs: The MOST effective PCT regiment is one that includes a prescription/research drug, however some users prefer not to go this route, you may be asking why would someone go another route if this is the most proven and effective PCT method. There’s various reasons but one to point out is that these drugs aren’t technically available without a prescription, these are also very powerful drugs that can also have their own side effects, notice that I say they aren’t “technically” available that’s because they can be purchased online at research drug sites, I won’t provide you with any links, if you chose to go this route googling for these sites will won’t take you long.
1. Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate). Comes in Liquid or Pill form.
2. Optional (But highly-recommended): Competitive Edge Labs – P.C.T Assist
3. Optional (But recommended): Competitive Edge Labs – Suppress-C
Below is an example PCT when using a research drug (such as Nolvadex aka Tamoxifen Citrate, as we are in this case).
Week 1 Nolvadex 20mg | Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20mg & P.C.T Assist (6 caps) | Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10mg & P.C.T Assist (6 caps) | Week 5 P.C.T Assist (6 caps)
Example Cycle
This is an example cycle from start to finish to give you an idea how it should look, assumes you’re using Nolvadex. From start to finish our properly designed cycle will take approximately 12 weeks total. Assuming your cycle is 5 weeks in length.
- Week 1-2: Pre-load Cycle Support, Cycle Assist or Life Support @ Bottle Recommended dosages.
- Week 3: Cycle/Life Support | M1,4ADD 90mg
- Week 4-7: Cycle/Life Support | M1,4ADD 120mg
- Week 8: Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 20mg
- Week 9: Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 20mg | PCT Assist (6 Caps).
- Week 10-11: Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 10mg | PCT Assist (6 Caps).
- Week 12: PCT Assist (6 Caps).
Stacking
M1,4ADD can be stacked with other compounds quite successfully, M1,4ADD is potent on it’s own therefore it’s not recommend pairing it with another methylated compounds. M1,4ADD can be stacked with non-methylated compounds, most commonly when stacked, it’s with a compound that helps curtail fat gain. Here are some non-methylated compounds that could be potential stack candidates.
Non-Methylated Compounds (11-OXO, Stanodrol, P-Stanz, Furazadrol, x-tren, etc)
Supplements
It’s recommended that users supplement with a quality Multi-Vitamin and Fish Oil throughout the ENTIRE cycle. You should stop taking any other supplements on Cycle as well such as Creatine, NO, Test Boosters and so on, these should be saved for PCT in order to preserve strength. It’s heavily recommended that during PCT, you add Creatine and a Cell Volumizer type of product. Supplementing with Protein is highly recommended on cycle.
Interactions
Users who are on anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication may experienced increased anxiety/depression while on cycle and during PCT. It is HEAVILY advised not to drink alcoholic drinks while on Cycle & PCT, doing so will put significant strain on the liver and can result in a major health hazard. Users should avoid using stimulants on cycle as blood pressure may elevate too high and possibly cause fainting. In general, avoid starting any new medications while on cycle or just before, if you’re concerned about a possible interaction consult your doctor. Users should also eat a clean diet on cycle.
Drug Testing
Those being tested for elevated testosterone levels and or lowered estrogen levels will produce a positive test result while on M1,4ADD, it’s also important to note that if using a research/prescription drug for your PCT regiment, this will also cause a positive test result in many cases. In the meantime the easiest method for passing a drug test is to purchase synthetic urine online, they come in easy to use kits at many websites and are relatively affordable.
Disclaimer
We are not doctors, therefore before starting any supplement or training regiment you should consult with your doctor. The information being provided is simply personal opinion. Anyone under the age of 21 should not consider using any pro-hormone or designer steroid as it can have a negative impact on your life, for life.
